Comments on: Feed the Catechists! http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/ Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:14:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Joe http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-427 Joe Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:17:59 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-427 Well said, Amy. Well said, Amy.

]]> By: Amy http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-426 Amy Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:37:22 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-426 Oh, wow. I really think that Tina needs to talk to her DRE about how unacceptable this is. It might be the wake-up call s/he needs. We have to remember that not every parish has a professional DRE. Some parishes can only afford part-time volunteers to serve in that function. And Tina, if you don't get help from the DRE, your pastor needs to know about this sitation. It's not fair to you and it's especially not fair to the boys and girls in the classrooms. Oh, wow.

I really think that Tina needs to talk to her DRE about how unacceptable this is. It might be the wake-up call s/he needs. We have to remember that not every parish has a professional DRE. Some parishes can only afford part-time volunteers to serve in that function. And Tina, if you don’t get help from the DRE, your pastor needs to know about this sitation. It’s not fair to you and it’s especially not fair to the boys and girls in the classrooms.

]]> By: Joe http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-425 Joe Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:40:16 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-425 Ali, thanks for the input. One caution I would offer is recruiting helpers on your own. Today, everyone who is to come into contact with children must have background checks and participate in a Protecting God's Children program such as VIRTUS. Be sure you are in communication with your DRE over this! Ali, thanks for the input. One caution I would offer is recruiting helpers on your own. Today, everyone who is to come into contact with children must have background checks and participate in a Protecting God’s Children program such as VIRTUS. Be sure you are in communication with your DRE over this!

]]> By: Ali http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-424 Ali Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:27:32 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-424 Hi Tina :-) I'm newer to the Catholic faith as well (only I'm still waiting to be baptized, etc.) I also teach a pre-k/kindy CCD class in my parish. You really have been overwhelmed with everything! It's hard enough as it is. I don't have any real advice, cause my class only had 6 kids, and help was available if needed (and one morning I did need it, my own son has a *severe* tantrum/meltdown. You know the kind that makes you want to find a hole and quietly sink into? LOL). Although, if I were in your shoes, I do think I would recruit one or two of my own helpers. If your DRE isn't helping, then speak up to a couple people you think may be open to helping and draft them for your class room. It sounds like a difficult situation all around. Here is a link for a yahoo-email group . . . http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CatholicCatechist/?yguid=266378785 (Hope that worked!, if not hopefully Joe can fix it ;-) ) Try signing up for it and posting to see in anyone there has helpful suggestions. With the state of some religious ed programs, you cannot be the only one facing a difficult situation. All my best, and prayers! Hi Tina :-)
I’m newer to the Catholic faith as well (only I’m still waiting to be baptized, etc.) I also teach a pre-k/kindy CCD class in my parish. You really have been overwhelmed with everything! It’s hard enough as it is. I don’t have any real advice, cause my class only had 6 kids, and help was available if needed (and one morning I did need it, my own son has a *severe* tantrum/meltdown. You know the kind that makes you want to find a hole and quietly sink into? LOL).

Although, if I were in your shoes, I do think I would recruit one or two of my own helpers. If your DRE isn’t helping, then speak up to a couple people you think may be open to helping and draft them for your class room. It sounds like a difficult situation all around.

Here is a link for a yahoo-email group . . .
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CatholicCatechist/?yguid=266378785
(Hope that worked!, if not hopefully Joe can fix it ;-) ) Try signing up for it and posting to see in anyone there has helpful suggestions. With the state of some religious ed programs, you cannot be the only one facing a difficult situation.

All my best, and prayers!

]]> By: Joe http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-423 Joe Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:15:28 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-423 Mallys, thanks for adding your helpful suggestions. Mallys, thanks for adding your helpful suggestions.

]]> By: mallys http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-422 mallys Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:30:09 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-422 As a practical suggestion, ask the daily Mass bunch if someone will be your prayer partner and mentor for the prayers that have to be learned. Maybe one (or more) of them will come in and listen to the prayers, so that burden is taken off. Also, when you introduce a prayer, post it on the wall, if you can, and use it for beginning and ending prayer for each class, until they are more familiar with it. Telling your students why you never learned these prayers before and how much you desired to become Catholic is in itself a powerful witness. Faith is caught before it is taught. I have been a catechist for many years and am trained and certified as an elementary teacher as well, so I tend to do things in the "school model" but that is not always the best way (not even for me--then I have to rethink), and you should set up ways that are more comfortable for you (sit in a circle, groups of 3 or 4, etc) Perhaps you can recruit a parent or two to help you at least with traffic flow. Anyway, Tina, I have put you on my prayer list and will pray for you during this year. As a practical suggestion, ask the daily Mass bunch if someone will be your prayer partner and mentor for the prayers that have to be learned. Maybe one (or more) of them will come in and listen to the prayers, so that burden is taken off. Also, when you introduce a prayer, post it on the wall, if you can, and use it for beginning and ending prayer for each class, until they are more familiar with it. Telling your students why you never learned these prayers before and how much you desired to become Catholic is in itself a powerful witness. Faith is caught before it is taught.

I have been a catechist for many years and am trained and certified as an elementary teacher as well, so I tend to do things in the “school model” but that is not always the best way (not even for me–then I have to rethink), and you should set up ways that are more comfortable for you (sit in a circle, groups of 3 or 4, etc) Perhaps you can recruit a parent or two to help you at least with traffic flow.

Anyway, Tina, I have put you on my prayer list and will pray for you during this year.

]]> By: Joe http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-421 Joe Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:12:55 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-421 Tina, Wow! I'm ovewhelmed at your situation! First of all, you have such a wonderful selfless attitude. You are willing to share your gifts in a challenging situation without, apparently a whole lot of support, and while working very hard to pay your own bills. Having said that, there are a few issues that disturb me, not the least of which is asking a first-year (or any year, for that matter) catechist to teach 30 - THIRTY - 6th graders. Your DRE should be told that such a class size is unnacceptable. As a rule, a catechist should have NO MORE THAN 15 - FIFTEEN - STUDENTS! Ideally, about 10! If there are that many students, the DRE needs to recruit more catechists. The next thing that I find upsetting is that you are being made to wait until the last minute to find out what you are teaching. That leaves you with so little time to prepare. This too is unfair to you. Third, catechists should not have to buy their own materials and resources. If the parish is on a very low budget and the catechist wishes to do this out of a sense of stewardship, that's fine, however, in most cases, the DRE should cover those expenses. Finally, and most upsetting, is I don't sense that any support is being offered to you by way of catechist formation. I think it's wonderful to invite converts to share their enthusiasm for the faith as a catechist, however, a lot of support is needed to build familiarity with Catholic Tradition. Tina, you are a trooper, however, I feel you are being mistreated and taken advantage of. Your situation would be difficult for ANY catechist...even one who's been teaching for 30 years! I hope and pray that you will be able to talk to your DRE about these situations which are unnacceptable, plain and simple. At the very least, your DRE should be able to recruit some aides or a co-catechist so that you can have more adults available for crowd control. Even Jesus had 12 Apostles to help him with crowd control! If there is nothing that can be done about it and you venture into this year with the status quo, your growing wisdom and experience will indeed help you, however, you may want to consider eventually looking at serving as a catechist at another parish where you will find more support. God bless you, Tina, and please keep in touch! Tina,
Wow! I’m ovewhelmed at your situation!

First of all, you have such a wonderful selfless attitude. You are willing to share your gifts in a challenging situation without, apparently a whole lot of support, and while working very hard to pay your own bills.

Having said that, there are a few issues that disturb me, not the least of which is asking a first-year (or any year, for that matter) catechist to teach 30 - THIRTY - 6th graders. Your DRE should be told that such a class size is unnacceptable. As a rule, a catechist should have NO MORE THAN 15 - FIFTEEN - STUDENTS! Ideally, about 10! If there are that many students, the DRE needs to recruit more catechists.

The next thing that I find upsetting is that you are being made to wait until the last minute to find out what you are teaching. That leaves you with so little time to prepare. This too is unfair to you.

Third, catechists should not have to buy their own materials and resources. If the parish is on a very low budget and the catechist wishes to do this out of a sense of stewardship, that’s fine, however, in most cases, the DRE should cover those expenses.

Finally, and most upsetting, is I don’t sense that any support is being offered to you by way of catechist formation. I think it’s wonderful to invite converts to share their enthusiasm for the faith as a catechist, however, a lot of support is needed to build familiarity with Catholic Tradition.

Tina, you are a trooper, however, I feel you are being mistreated and taken advantage of. Your situation would be difficult for ANY catechist…even one who’s been teaching for 30 years!

I hope and pray that you will be able to talk to your DRE about these situations which are unnacceptable, plain and simple. At the very least, your DRE should be able to recruit some aides or a co-catechist so that you can have more adults available for crowd control. Even Jesus had 12 Apostles to help him with crowd control!

If there is nothing that can be done about it and you venture into this year with the status quo, your growing wisdom and experience will indeed help you, however, you may want to consider eventually looking at serving as a catechist at another parish where you will find more support.

God bless you, Tina, and please keep in touch!

]]> By: tina http://catechistsjourney.loyolapress.com/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-420 tina Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:33:15 +0000 http://www.catechistsjourney.org/2007/08/23/feed-the-catechists/#comment-420 last year was my first year of teaching. i had no idea what i was getting into and i am a convert as well so i do not know every prayer the children had to learn and that did not impress any of my 30 students at the 6th grade level that i had last year. i also had at least 5 ADHD children that i could not get under controle so i felt very upset and overwhelmed last year. this year i am teaching again with a bit more wisdom then last but still not really ready. I was told I will be placed in the available space and 3 spaces are not filled. sign up is next week and the following week classes begin 2 teachers short. Kindergaurden, 1st and 6th.....i cannot prepare myself when i do not know which i will be teaching. I told her that i will return to the 6th grade teaching if she thinks it is easier to find volunteers for the lower grade levels. i am better prepared if i do teach 6th grade again and understand that i might want to buy my own extra bibles and dry erase markers, pens, pencils and any others supplies needed. i'm a full time factory worker as well so doing this one hour of week is a challenge when i am mentally exsausted upon arrival. God Bless you Tina last year was my first year of teaching. i had no idea what i was getting into and i am a convert as well so i do not know every prayer the children had to learn and that did not impress any of my 30 students at the 6th grade level that i had last year. i also had at least 5 ADHD children that i could not get under controle so i felt very upset and overwhelmed last year. this year i am teaching again with a bit more wisdom then last but still not really ready. I was told I will be placed in the available space and 3 spaces are not filled. sign up is next week and the following week classes begin 2 teachers short. Kindergaurden, 1st and 6th…..i cannot prepare myself when i do not know which i will be teaching. I told her that i will return to the 6th grade teaching if she thinks it is easier to find volunteers for the lower grade levels. i am better prepared if i do teach 6th grade again and understand that i might want to buy my own extra bibles and dry erase markers, pens, pencils and any others supplies needed. i’m a full time factory worker as well so doing this one hour of week is a challenge when i am mentally exsausted upon arrival.

God Bless you
Tina

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